Saturday, December 30, 2023

Telemarketer Evangelism


From the 1990s to mid 2000's Americans began getting telemarketing calls and the law never really helped stop it. It was really intrusive, you never knew who was calling you so like rotary calls till at least 2014 there was no way to know who was calling you even on early cell phones (2011-2013 or so when cell phones became popular and avail to everyone). It was so bad that govt finally made a do not call list law. 

Prior to 2017 telemarketers would call and you would not know if it was a scammer. In fact you never imagined it would be. As if they were only legitimate businesses cold calling people to see if someone was interested in their stuff. 

Somewhere around 2015 the US started hiring foreign call centers instead of paying Americans for that job and from there a lot of scammers began big business in India and when you get a call (or called for any tech support) it would be a very thick Indian accent. Most Indians at call centers were looking to scam for big bucks &/or learn English for practicing English without having to pay a tutor... and then they would move to America. Anyway, so this opened a floodgate of problems and scammers scamming people out of their savings. Tech ones would get personal info off your computer via remote-in (the newest thing) or start a visa gift card scam around 2017 (today even ticktock warns people and i saw a commercial psa on that in 2023). 

So since 2020 most cell phones companies have created a spam or scam filter, allow you to report the scammer & block the number. We also can actually see who is calling us now so there are some better helps today to avoid scams.

But before talking on witnessing to telemarketers... i need to give a real warning.

Legit telemarketig is rare today. It isnt too much of a thing anymore; everyone moved to facebook and online ads. 

You might find an opportunity to witness to a telemarketer occassionally. If the caller id is not in your contact list, not noted as a scammer... it still could be one (we got a spoofed call acting as Verizon in 2018), or... it could be a real business cold calling doing legit business. Use caution anyway. 

Biggest advice for answering any phone call of someone you dont know, even if a business you know calls you is always answer and respond like this...

If they say Is John there? You say...
SPEAKING. or Hold On Pls  if you need to get him. 

Usually that was rotary phone era bcuz on a cell phone they call the right person. 

You never say "yes" because today scammers and neferious callers record you saying Yes or ok or sure and they use that as a voice authentication to buy house or car or get a loan in your name. 

Memorize this and put it into practice. Never say Yes, Ok, Sure, alright, mmhumm, correct, and words like that. Be afraid of those words on a call 🚨 so it might save you from big financial disaster. 

If you need to give an affirmative response to something, no matter how nice they are and disarming you, find a different way. They'll keep baiting you on the call using 10 diff tactics ir repeating themselves until you fall 

TELEMARKETING EVANGELISM 

Somewhere around 2004 I was volunteering at LW ministry helping them mail out the Basic, then Intermediate and then the Advanced Training courses that were offering in a box like package. I was there a lot and sometime afterwards. I was connected to them irl in 2003 after seeing Kirk on tv on a public broadcast station airing Hell's Best Kept Secret. 

There was a time Scotty was outside and some staff was there with us sitting down. Scotty was telling us how he started sharing the gospel to telemarketers and I was πŸ€―πŸ˜€ by such a great idea. People were coming to us via the phone [just as people do on Halloween].  He explained how he goes about it and it is sort of like the above example. 

In 2005 or 2006 I was at work and got a telemarketer call on my cell phone; again we had no caller id back then. The job I was working at was in real estate and was owned by my boss whose office was right next to my desk. There was 1 or 2 other employees there and a small entry to another room opened up to a second business, the main business he had on site at the ocean. He had 3 workers in the office there and all the main workers were outside. So it was basically him and me all the time. 

So I got a call and started talking to the guy, he was American and it was a legit business. [It was before India invaded the call centers]. 
I followed how Scotty suggested. The first time I ever got to try this out πŸ˜‚. 

We talked while I was at my desk. I didnt think the call was going to take too long. I went through it and discussed the gospel with him and he git so angry. Just yelling at me and he was just very angry about God topics. During the convo he hung up. 🀷‍♀️
A few minutes later he called back πŸ˜‚ abd was still ranting and I kindky answered and [went outside on a break πŸ˜‚ to chat] then was able to talk more with him. He didnt turn to Jesus but he got a good discussion with me and I am glad I was able to do that. It felt like 10 minutes and 10 more minutes. So it was a decent call. I didnt really have much to do at thst timeframe anyway so it was good that it happened. Def a God ordained moment. 😊

I had an idea what my aunt went through when she worked in a complaints dept call center in 2000 πŸ˜…. Hard job I am sure!

Anyway I never forgot that call because he hung up and called back πŸ˜‚. I hope he never forgot it too and hopefully is now soundly saved. Pray for him. πŸ™

Anyway... you might have opportunity. 
Be wise, careful and be prepared for rabbit trails and know how to control the call to swing it back to the gospel. And stay on the gospel. People will do all kinds of talking and things to avoid accoubtability and looking in the mirror. Let's be faithful to ude the law to lead them to Christ. 


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Background and Warning


into the trap.  I have heard some stories!

A way to avoid that is for YOU to control the call convo. Here is a sample. 

Ring ring
Hello?
Oh Hello is this Johan?
Speaking 🚨
This is Johan?
Speaking πŸš¨
I see, this is Muknagth from the business name. We are offering a special to help you with xyz problem....Johan? 
I am here 🚨
So Johan can we tell you about this offer?
Well,🚨 I am not sure I am in need of nor interested in xyz but I will hear you out if you let me ask you something afterwards, deal? 
Sure sure Johan So I will tell you [shpeel given]. 
If he asks things in script to get you to say "yes"....you just let him talk. If adamant to get your compliance... instead of saying yes you say...
I am listening, continue...
He gets frustrated but keeps trying and then finishes the shpeel.
Is this something you would like to buy Johan? 
No, it isnt something I need but I appreciate you telling me about it. I hope you also appreciate what I wanted to ask and talk with you about.
[Goes into the gospel convo...]

Sometimes they hang up πŸ˜‚. But when you bring up about God or Jesus they are convicted that they are lying and seeking to steal. Even if you dont get that far, they know in their conscience they are guilty. If it is a scammer. 
 
There are times you will have a legitimate business call. And because they still have hope that you will buy into whatever they're selling and because the call is recorded [their boss and bosses boss and quality assurance dept reviews these calls] they will be polite out of having to. So they might avtually listen to what you are saying and a seed can be planted. 


As far as I'm concerned... the longer you keep a scammer on the line the less people the'yll try to scam today. And they might just quit their job out of guilt. At the very least. 




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Calls: Sharing Christ to Business workers


We share the gospel with telemarketers so why not also look for opportunities to do so when contacting businesses for regular needs and purposes. πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€

 Remember that we really cant take up their time for chatter since they are at work. So plant a seed and goooo. 

Helpful Suggestions 
Pray over the call before you call and afterwards. When you are done with the purpose of the call you could try to swing to initiate a short conversation towards the gospel by saying:

*Thanks a million for your help todayπŸ˜€. Say... here's The million dollar question - if you died today, where would you go, heaven or hell?


* You have been very helpful today and I appreciate that. You might've had a lot of frustrated or angry calls to deal with today. I hope I was gracious and blessed you as a reprieve to all that.

1.  Are you by chance a born again Christian? 

Or

2. You have been nice & very helpful today are you a Christian?


> then transition based on what they say. 

- if Christian say, "well God bless you, bye and check out NeedGod.com." click

- if they say no, and whatever they say is their religion think of something to say...

= If they say they are muslim. Say "oh have you seen the James White debate on youtube? Check that out, bye. James White."


=If they say no you can say, a lot of people really misunderstand Christianity. Have a great day -- and check out NeedGod.com. 


2. News springboards. 

Something with death or car accidents and use it cautiously and very short (like other examples here). If it turns out they lost a loved one in covid era or recently then say something like "even though 160k people die every day and we need to be right with God before it is our turn, I will pray for you today and tonight that God gives you comfort and peace at this time. Today look at NeedGod.com ok. God bless you. NeedGod.com." click. 


3. We have holidays all year long. Big ones and obscure ones. If there isnt a big holy day coming up see if there's something springboardy worthy. 


If it is near or after a holiday you can try:

= I am sure you have been hearing happy holidays and merry Christmas for weeks now πŸ˜…, it is important to know the reason for the season bye & check out NeedGod.com


= Hopefully this has been a easy call to take and a relief from the many that arent. Have a great Easter or Resurrection day, and when you have a minute.. check out needGod.com 


= "St Patricks day is near and I hope you have a nice one. He was a Christian you know. He explained to people about God being a trinity. Do you have a Christian background?"


=Memorial Day. "You've been helpful today thank you. You know, Memorial Day is near/here. So many people gave their lives for us to live in this country a place of peace, freedom and safety. But none of their sacrifices compare to the one made by Jesus. The only one whom God gave us who can save us from our sins abd coming judgment. Check out NeedGod.com ok. It is important that we are right with God today. NeedGod.com. bye" 

- that might be a tad long but I cant think of a shorter one for military holidays. 


=For Presidents day and any presidents birthday, a known Scotus or reputable former congressman who has died in last 30 yrs you could say something similar. They served their country and then died. 

"Thanks for your help. You know, it is/almost name's died/death anniversary. So many people gave their lives in service to us, But none compare to the sacrifice made by Jesus. The only one whom God gave us, who can save us from our sins, and coming judgment. Check out NeedGod.com ok. It is important that we are right with God- today. NeedGod.com. bye" 


For like where theyre on the clock and cant chat do those shorter ideas.

For places that are not really a business and you have a little leeway... you could try to have a tiny bit more of a chat but remember to respect their time and that you are only there to plant a seed. If God is drawing them theyll check iut the website or think about the convo or He might even bring a believer into their life tomorrow irl and they have a talk. So pray even after the encounter. 


Follow ups - for at businesses

⭐If you write their name down in a book designated for these calls you can open it to that business's page in your memory jogger book right before the next call. Also note in there what you found out. Theyre atheist or muslim or mormon or whatever. Has kids etc. Then at the end of that call you could say:


Jane I think πŸ€”we spoke last time I called. I asked if you were a Christian and you were going to look up needGod.com. πŸ˜€did you check it out? Y1/N2

Y1= did you turn to Jesus? ...

NπŸ‘‰ "well you can do that today. It is important to. Tomorrow isnt guaranteed. So before you get in your car today, get right with God. God bless" click. 

YπŸ‘‰ If they say yes say "great news! Check out Save yourself some pain at livingwaters.com ok. God bless. Byee."


πŸ‘‰If they say they are not the person. Thats ok. You can say "well you were so nice and helpful that I thought it was youπŸ˜‚. Nice to meet you πŸ™‚.

> Do you have a Christian background? 

(Listen) if yes or no tell them "well have a nice day & check out NeedGod.com". 


Even if they say they are Christian.  Bcuz shockingly 50% professing believers now believe in prosperity Gospel 》not the biblical one. And among the others and church attenders they've embraced a false gospel. So really if anything theyll hear the biblical gospel or... start sharing it πŸ˜€.

Plant seeds where you can 😊😊😊


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Cold calling gospel starters

CALLS FOR CHRIST

Today it is rare to have access to a white pages physical phone book. Those faded out around 2005. πŸ˜‚

But you can still find whitepages.com !

Four things to keep in mind
This option is good for you if: 
* If you are someone good at keeping the gospel and convo on track and avoiding rabbit trail derailments really good, and you are more of an ambivert or extrovert you can probably do this. 
* If you are really pretty good with apologetics and the top 10 faq most people ask or object to such as suffering, why we exist etc. 
*If you can let rejections roll off your back and not be hurt by things people say. [If you worked at a call center πŸ˜… you might be easily able to do this ministry.]
* If you pay to use Burner app, so you have an evangelism number you can burn if you get harassers or stalkers. 

Ideas for cold calling. 
>>And voicemail is fine too.

1. "Hi I'm with Grace Christian Church, and with no intentions other than caring about you, was calling to find out if you have any prayer requests. I would be happy to pray with you now and put you on my prayer list."
If they are receptive take their request & pray for them. Then ask their religious background. If they say Christian, ask them  "Joe let me ask you, if you ran into me today and I was having a heart attack but was afraid I was going to die and asked you how I could be saved....and you have 3 minutes until the ambulance arrives... how would you explain to me how to be saved?"  Listen for what they say if it is false or if it is right. 
Then guide the call based on that. 

If you run into a cult person, muslim or someone from another religion, guide them based on that.

In advance of starting this Calls for Christ ministry have a script for every religion ready and the top things they'll likely say so you know what to say and won't be flustered. 

Go through the skeptics FAQ and Religious sections here that are online answers and helps for people in non Christian religions. If you have a good grasp on those [and can pop over there to them as a memory jogger] then you can assist with planting spiritual seeds and watering the truth they already know. 

There are a few specific other evangelism and apologetics helps here that are not in the resources avail to the general public on the faq sites connected to us here. And that is so you can reach these lost folks armed with a bit more tools for leading them to Christ.

The muslim one is a good example thanks to James White. He has studied and debated muslims since around 2006/2009 and has fantastic advice on the LW podcast as well as his debates on youtube.  Check that out because God has allowed muslims in the West and like the Jews we can lovingly reach them for Christ. 








Friday, December 29, 2023

Gospel Conversations via website chats

In the past it was much easier to chat with someone online after reaching a rep in the chat room or chat box at a website. Since 2020 or 2023 a bunch of sites migrsted over to chat bots or ai chat reps and theres no live person there anymore. 

However all is not lost. When contacting a site as you go about business or some reason you are actually at that site for... you can try to get the chat bot to push you to a representative. "I would like to speak to a human representative please."

Some sites have an easy way to just push you over to a rep. Many other sites are making it harder to do so (as they have to pay a human to do that). The bit will be programed to make you jump thriugh hoops to tell it why you need a human and various prompt questions to filter out and avoid human connection. 

You however do not care about that and will jump thru the hoops for 5 min to get an actual rep. πŸ˜‚. Right? 😁

You can use ideas from the below links to come up with a pre saved chunk of text of a gospel talk to try to leave with them. If it is a business they will cut that chat right off so do a very brief message to them even if it is:
"Thanks so much for your help today.
Check this out... NEEDGOD.com" 

Wait a few seconds & end chat. The end chat feature may cut off the rep and push them immediately to next chatter connection. So wait a few seconds b4 you end the chat. Enough time for them to see it. Think a second and consider writing it down. 

However you do it... soak the before and after in prayer. 

And if you are on a site that likely allows a bit of chit chat, ask if theres anything you can pray for them about after the chat. Even if it is just a topic or silent request. Pray it & fir them...and know that your consideration towards them will be remembered. It is a good witness for Chridt, even if you dont get much chance to talk.

In fact if there's not much time it seems in the chat you can say "God bless you & I will pray for you today. Btw, check out... NeedGod.com". Even that is something. If God is drawing them it will not return void. 



Sunday, December 24, 2023

Christmas gift rejection at old workplace 2000

Workplace Christmas Gospel Convo
I have a story to share about a rejected Christmas gift in 2000 at work πŸ˜‚. 

Story here:
I was working in a high rise bldg in LA. The company owned several bldgs in downtown LA. It was the year before 9/11. 

I had no evangelism training nor experience. I just flew by the seat of my pants cuz I just had no idea how to witness I just tried what I could.

I do wish i had owned a recorder at the time so I could write out this story well because so much was said and is a great example of how you can reach and navigate with the Lost. 

I tried to find a way to share Christ at Christmas and Easter at work. I knew the job was contracted only for 2 years and i worked with only my boss and I in a leasing dept that had a seperate office to the rest of the hq office. So I took chances here cuz I woupdnt be here long and took the approach as if i was at a public school - hand something out at lunch while people were gone. I coukdnt do that to the executives too as they were on the outer glass offices. But I was able to do it for about 7 secretaries and a paralegal. It was a mini brown bag with a candy in it or a couple candies and a gospel message I wrote up and pieced together myself. It probably had an invite to church in it too but maybe not since LA was a big place. But there was a sort of encouragement Christward. 

Towards the end of the day one of the ladies, and older black lady (maybe 45?) came 8nto my office, returned the bag and said she doesnt want anything to do with Christianity. Her grabdmother was a Christian. I said I was sorry to hear that. She doesnt want to talk about Christianity... and then engaged me in my first actual Christian conversation with someone (besides an attempt in the milirary with a good friend). 

She didnt want to talk about Christianity but then proceeded to talk to me about it for 40 minutes πŸ˜‚πŸ˜Š. I hope I was able to plant some good seeds that day. I remember sime of the convo but nit enough to recreate here. Afterwards, my boss, (almost retirement age), came out to see me fir a quick second. The door was open to his office the whole time πŸ˜³πŸ˜‰πŸ™‚ and I was hoping he heard it and was either encouraged to be saved or edified and encouraged in gospel convos. I had found out afterwards he was Episcopalian but I didnt know what they believed at that time, so I hoped the convo was good for him to hear. I envision he was sitting there grinning at his desk and listening in πŸ˜†. When he came out it was kinda like side smiles. I just thank God for helping me through that convo and preparing me with knowledge from Scriptures to help. 

I came from a very small church youth group. Usually it was just me πŸ˜… so i knew not much and even in military had no way to get to a church or was somewhere where there was none. So I barely knew the Bible and till then had no idea we should read it daily. What I knew came from church long before the internet was a thing and most never heard of nor had computers with internet. Today yall are so much further and better off than me. But I am grateful to God for solid teachers and preachers I learned from back then, and for having access to a Bible. 

❣ Will update to above longer more detailed witnessing encounter, if I ever find it. 

9/11 2001 happened not long after that and perhaps God used this to reach her for Christ. A lot of people ended back up at churchbduring that time. And about 6 months later the company closed. Everyone went their seperate ways. 


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Christmas tracting gifts πŸŽ„

Christmas tracting gifts

So you know the Easter baskets we see with cellophane around them and goodies inside?

You know how at Halloween/Reformation Day we put treats in ziptop baggies and a gospel tract? 

My sister had a great idea she shared with me this year and I want to pass it on. Might be a bit late for this yearπŸ˜… but you can do it in the future.

Christmas evangelism by gifts. 
My sister was going shopping at a dollar store and found tins at a discount shop. She got an for idea for mini buckets that can hold candy, little shred paper, Christmas candy and a scratcher. 

I was like πŸ€”ohh like this could be used like a Halloween witnessing tin. A great idea for Christmas gifts to give to neighbors coworkers and people πŸ˜€. Instead of scratchers put in a tract like Why Christianity mini booklet tract or comic good person tract or Santa bucks million dollar bill tract. Put a couple pieces of candy in there too, propped up on shred color paper, and cellophane wrap & tie w ribbon. 🀩

You could keep a box of them in your trunk. And hand deliver to neighbors via holding an arm basket. 

Hand out to your kids friends the week of Christmas at your home, and have them hand out to their school mates end of school day at school (after class) on Christmas eve day or Dec 23rd. 

>>You can find tins and items for this idea at end of season sales of 65% off stuff at many places trying to get rid of Christmas items. Save them in a plastic tub under the bed for evangelism next year! 



Workplace Christmas Gospel Convo
I have a story to share about a rejected Christmas gift in 2000 at work πŸ˜‚. 

Story here:
I was working in a high rise bldg in LA. The company owned several bldgs in downtown LA. It was the year before 9/11. 

I had no evangelism training nor experience. I just flew by the seat of my pants cuz I just had no idea how to witness I just tried what I could.

I do wish i had owned a recorder at the time so I could write out this story well because so much was said and is a great example of how you can reach and navigate with the Lost. 

I tried to find a way to share Christ at Christmas and Easter at work. I knew the job was contracted only for 2 years and i worked with only my boss and I in a leasing dept that had a seperate office to the rest of the hq office. So I took chances here cuz I woupdnt be here long and took the approach as if i was at a public school - hand something out at lunch while people were gone. I coukdnt do that to the executives too as they were on the outer glass offices. But I was able to do it for about 7 secretaries and a paralegal. It was a mini brown bag with a candy in it or a couple candies and a gospel message I wrote up and pieced together myself. It probably had an invite to church in it too but maybe not since LA was a big place. But there was a sort of encouragement Christward. 

Towards the end of the day one of the ladies, and older black lady (maybe 45?) came 8nto my office, returned the bag and said she doesnt want anything to do with Christianity. Her grabdmother was a Christian. I said I was sorry to hear that. She doesnt want to talk about Christianity... and then engaged me in my first actual Christian conversation with someone (besides an attempt in the milirary with a good friend). 

She didnt want to talk about Christianity but then proceeded to talk to me about it for 40 minutes πŸ˜‚πŸ˜Š. I hope I was able to plant some good seeds that day. I remember sime of the convo but nit enough to recreate here. Afterwards, my boss, (almost retirement age), came out to see me fir a quick second. The door was open to his office the whole time πŸ˜³πŸ˜‰πŸ™‚ and I was hoping he heard it and was either encouraged to be saved or edified and encouraged in gospel convos. I had found out afterwards he was Episcopalian but I didnt know what they believed at that time, so I hoped the convo was good for him to hear. I envision he was sitting there grinning at his desk and listening in πŸ˜†. When he came out it was kinda like side smiles. I just thank God for helping me through that convo and preparing me with knowledge from Scriptures to help. 

I came from a very small church youth group. Usually it was just me πŸ˜… so i knew not much and even in military had no way to get to a church or was somewhere where there was none. So I barely knew the Bible and till then had no idea we should read it daily. What I knew came from church long before the internet was a thing and most never heard of nor had computers with internet. Today yall are so much further and better off than me. But I am grateful to God for solid teachers and preachers I learned from back then, and for having access to a Bible. 

Link to longer witnessing encounter story above, if I ever find it. 

Heres other helps and ideas: